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Topic: URGENT!PA sellers may need Auctioneering license!Where next? (Read 1615 times)
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TazFromPa
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 08:13:18 PM » |
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I still maintain the position I am not an auctioneer and I feel that anyone who looks objectively at this will see my point. Bureaucracy is trying to change the definition to suit there needs. If I take an item on consignment to sell it in a store I am not an auctioneer.I really do not want to debate semantics. Consignment Sale:
For consignment sales, the dealer and seller arrive at a net figure which the seller realizes when the item is sold. The only charge incurred by the seller is the sales commission which, generally speaking, is about 20-25%. All other costs associated with marketing the item, including photography, insurance, shipping, advertising, and printed materials, are absorbed by the dealer in the ordinary course of business. The only expenses the seller pays for are those necessary for restoration and framing, which allow an item to be offered "retail ready". The dealer usually advances these costs, and deducts the expenses from the proceeds when the item is sold. In the rare instance a work is returned to its owner unsold, these expenses would be billed to the owner at cost.
Consignment contracts generally run from 6 months to a year, and are renewable by mutual consent. The main reason sellers choose consignment is the slightly higher net proceeds they can expect to receive for their item when it is sold. The reason for the differential in net amounts between outright sale and consignment sale is that the dealer making an immediate purchase must factor in the time cost of the capital outlay, which is not applicable when selling an item on consignment.
auc·tion (ôkshn)
n.
1. A public sale in which property or items of merchandise are sold to the highest bidder.
con·sign·ment (kn-snmnt)
n.
1. The act of consigning.
2. Something consigned.
Auctioneer
The person who conducts an auction. The auctioneer introduces each lot offered for sale, acknowledges bids, and announces whether lots are sold or unsold and their final bid prices. I do not acknowledge bids,announce whether lots are sold(eBay sends me an email and the winning bidder) and lets me know the final bid price. Technically speaking you could say I do introduce the item only inasmuch as I am taking it to the eBay auction portal and posting it. Hmm does that mean if you drop goods off at the Auction House down the road you need to have an auctioneers license? |
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« Last Edit: November 20, 2007, 08:20:39 PM by TazFromPa »
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BTPS
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 08:42:16 PM » |
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I get paid UPFRONT whether their is a buyer or not. The payment from the buyer goes to their PayPal account or their mailing address if it's a money order. I do not get in the middle of payments.
The buyer/seller protections is just that - it's between the buyer and the seller --- I am not either, I am the listing service. I am contracted to create the listing - sometimes under my id since my feedback is well into the thousands, sometimes on their id if that's whatever they want. IF on my id, I take the item from the time the contact is signed, I ship it etc. They must have a business PayPal account and add me as a multiple user so I see ONLY what I need and once the deal is done, I am removed. I have limited paypal ability on their account - all I need to do is see they got the payment. If it's on there id, they keep it - I simple take pics, write the listing and send it to them - they list it, they ship it etc. I been paid at the time the contact is signed.
When I ship it, it even has their return address not mine.
I would imagine those that I list on MY ebay account could probably fall into I am the auctioneer - BUT the money goes to their PayPal not mine! I never touch the money. Especially on a car!
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NOTHING I sell is intended for use by anyone under 13 or anyone without COMMON SENSE!!! EXPOSE YOURSELF - www.BusinessesGrowingTogether.comCurrently operating 22 online stores - not enough space to post them all here, lol |
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TazFromPa
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2007, 08:57:30 PM » |
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This is from auctionbytes April 23 rd "Pennsylvania Latest Battleground in eBay Consignment-Sales Regulation" http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y07/m04/i23/s02This is from Call 4 Action: E-Bay Traders Warned They Need Pa. Auctioneer's License POSTED: 3:42 pm EST November 19, 2007 UPDATED: 5:12 pm EST November 19, 2007 http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/14641439/detail.html"The bureaucracy, and those special interests that are encouraging the bureaucracy, are lacking in common sense," Wonderling said.
"That is silly if that is the law," said Gov. Ed Rendell. "We should change it. I do not want Pennsylvanians to be handicapped and not be able to sell on eBay when people in West Virginia can." Even the Governor thinks it is stupid |
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« Last Edit: November 20, 2007, 09:00:44 PM by TazFromPa »
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up. I do a small amount of consignments and cannot afford to have this hassle!This headline was in my local paper yesterday!" E-Bay traders warned they need a Pa. auctioneer’s license"
??We are both stuck in our opinions and I see nothing will change yours as nothing will change mine 
